Episode 84: Becoming the Author of Your Life with Lindsey Van Wagner

In this episode of The Well-Tended Life Podcast, I sit down with author, teacher, and wellness coach Lindsey Van Wagner for a conversation that feels like pure synchronicity — one of those unexpected, delightful connections that reminds us how beautifully our stories can intertwine.

What began as a curiosity about a possible shared connection to The Secret Garden quickly turned into something much deeper: a front porch-style conversation about growth, healing, storytelling, and the courage it takes to truly listen to ourselves.

Lindsey shares her powerful journey — from navigating addiction and feeling lost in her 20s, to getting sober and rebuilding her life with intention, creativity, and deep spiritual connection. Through her work and her book Spirit Vigilante, she now helps others reclaim their voice, rewrite their stories, and step into who they’re meant to be.

Together, we explore what it means to tend to your inner world, to notice the patterns shaping your life, and to gently (but bravely) choose a new way forward.

We talk about:

🌿 The magic of synchronicity and unexpected connections
 🌿 How storytelling can become a path to healing
 🌿 Moving from survival mode into intentional living
 🌿 The courage it takes to be seen and heard
 🌿 Why noticing your thoughts and patterns changes everything
 🌿 Journaling, creativity, and finding your authentic voice
 🌿 Treating life like an experiment instead of a performance

Lindsey reminds us that we are always writing our story — and that we have more power than we think to choose what comes next.

💛 Here are a few heart taps from this episode:

1️⃣ You are the author of your life — whether you realize it or not.
 2️⃣ Noticing is the first step to changing anything.
 3️⃣ Your past doesn’t define you — it informs you.
 4️⃣ You don’t need more tools — you need the courage to begin.
 5️⃣ Life becomes more magical when you slow down enough to see it.
 6️⃣ Your “weeds” aren’t failures — they’re information.
 7️⃣ What if your life is just one big, beautiful experiment?

If you’ve been feeling a pull to slow down, reflect, or reconnect with your voice and your truth, this episode is your invitation to begin.

Connect with Lindsey Van Wagner:

Instagram: @spiritvigilante
 Book: Spirit Vigilante: Telling My Truth to Help You Live Yours

Website: https://www.thespiritvigilante.com/

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Transcript

 

Hey friends, welcome to The Well-Tended Life podcast. What is a well-tended life? Well, let me start by telling you what it is not. A well-tended life is not a set it and forget it life, nor is it a perfect life. It is though a life that is worked on every day in the sunshine and through the storms. And the truth is, what worked in our life gardens last year may not work in the next.

That's why here at The Well-Tended Life podcast, we're interviewing people who have grown and bloomed true in a variety of seasons, and who are willing to share their well-tended wisdom and weed-whacking advice with us. Listen in.

 Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Well Tended Life podcast, where we believe that sometimes the most powerful growth doesn't come from doing more, but from learning to pause, to listen, to let life catch up with us, and more. I'm your host, Carrie Wilt, , a life coach, a garden lover, and a speaker, and I help women unlock the life they put on hold while they were tending to everyone and everything else.

 , Today's episode, um, might feel a little different, right? And honestly, I hope a little delightful. Um, there's actually a quote from The Secret Garden, my great-great-grandmother's book, which is always a through line here at the podcast, that says, "It seemed scarcely bearable to leave such delightfulness."

And that's how this conversation, or the idea of this conversation, feels to me. It's like stumbling into something unexpectedly lovely, right? Um, a connection maybe I didn't see coming. For sure didn't see coming, right? Um, and delightful things are usually, um, uh, caused and, and come out of nowhere, and it's usually like a thread that you didn't know was there.

So, um, today's guest recently actually reached out to me with something that kind of stopped me in my tracks, and she shared that people throughout her life told her that my great-great-grandmother, Frances Hodgson Burnett, was actually her great-aunt. Um, now, whether this genealogical mystery is waiting to be solved or is simply it's just a coincidence, um, it felt like something worth exploring.

And because I always believe that stories connect us long before we understand how, I was like, "Let's get on. Let's have a chat and turn it into a, a get-to-know-you session," right? So today's like more less of a formal interview. It's more of that get-to-know-you session. Like like a porch swing chat, right?

Between two women who may or may not be related in s- literary lineage side, but who definitely share a curiosity about growth, about truth, and about , becoming who we really are, right? , I'm excited actually to learn more about her story, um, how she became the spirit vigilante, what shaped her, and what she's maybe learning and unlearning, and what she's stepping into now.

So who knows? Maybe by the end of it, we'll feel like it's scarcely bearable to leave such delightfulness too. So welcome, Lindsay. 

Thank you so much for having me. This is amazing and just one of those interesting synchronicity things. 

Right? 

So I'm, I'm really excited to explore that. 

Yeah. Well, so how did you find me to begin with?

Like, where did you stumble down that rabbit hole? 

Okay. So I was reading The Secret Garden and Little Lord Faunt- I can never say it right. Faunt I don't know how to spell it, Fauntleroy, , recently, and my whole life I had been told that Frances Hodgson Burnett was my great-great aunt. So my, brother's middle name is Burnett, and my grandfather's middle name was Burnett.

So recently I was thinking it's probably on the Swan Burnett side, right? and I do have an answer to that mystery, but ever since I was little we had this little section of our backyard that was kind of, enchanting to me. No one else cared about it but me. Now there's a pool there. But, uh, I would go in there and I would call it the secret garden, like, ever since I saw the movie when I was young and was told that, and then I, I loved A Little Princess.

I've always loved stories, always loved writing. And so recently I just thought, "I wanna explore this more." And When I had reached out to you, I hadn't done that deep digging and I I looked up, like, living relatives of Frances Hodgson Burnett and you came right up, and I totally just vibed with everything that you're doing, and I was thinking, "Well, I wanna talk to her anyway, so let's just explore this."

Since then, my mom did some research, and it is on the Burnett side, so I'm right about that. My great-grandmother's, I had to write this down, my great-grandmother's aunt was your great-great-gro- grandmother's cousin by marriage. So technically- 

Ooh ... 

Frances Hodgson Burnett is my first cousin three times removed by marriage.

Yes. 

We, we did it. It was a few days of really fun research, and we figured it out, so. 

That's so cool. Well, and it, somehow that leads to this conversation, which, like you said, so many, like, synchronicities and things that have to happen, to make that. but I also, I have always felt like Frances is always, like, in the background of my world, like, bringing people in and meddling around and pushing me forward.

Um, and so I'm excited about this conversation with you today. So, like, growing up, did you create The Secret Garden thinking, like, "Oh yeah, I'm related to her," or was it really more about the story? 

Both, because before I even knew I was related to her, I think, was when I saw the movie or even understood what that would have meant.

Yeah. 

And I was always just, like, yeah, like I said, enchanted by that idea. and I loved A Little Princess, and just, getting into those stories. And- Then once I learned more and as I grew up and became a writer myself, I just wanted to know if there was some relation there or something hidden. I'm really into ancestry and genealogy and where do we come from.

And I love that you're doing a restoration project on her. Mm-hmm. And so yeah, yeah, it just, it's kinda one of those things where I feel this intersection now happening, you know. That's, that's like, "Oh, okay, all of this makes sense." And though I wasn't related to her by blood, I know, Dr. Swann Burnett was an author himself, and they...

I'm now reading her biography. I'm like a third of the way through, and it's just really, really cool to go back and, and explore that. So I'm having a lot of fun. 

It's so crazy, and most people would probably find this crazy, but I assumed everybody had a Frances, growing up. like , I knew she was kind of a big deal, but I, I assumed everybody in the world had somebody in their family that was like that.

And it wasn't until actually I started reading one of her biographies in my like probably mid-20s, where I went... I literally, I m- I remember like rolling over and saying something to my husband. I was like, "Hey, I just realized that it's probably not common that most people have biographies on their family members."

Like it was it was like- Right ... aha, it was like, "Oh, oh. Oh, okay." 

She was a big deal. 

I'm interested in how, yeah, like your closest living, I mean, she was your great-great-grandmother. Yeah. So what did you hear about her growing 

up? So, so I always tell people, um, so she's my great-great-grandmother, and so she's my grandmother's grandmother- Mm-hmm

on my mother's side. Okay. So very direct lineage. Um, Frances had two sons. one died at 16 of tuberculosis. The other one is my great-grandfather. My great-grandfather had, um, two daughters. , One never had any children, and the other one is my grandmother. My grandmother had three kids, and then of course my grandmother had my mother, and my mother had me.

but that being said, Frances was really not talked about in my mother and grandmother's generation. Because Frances was, uber famous. Like, like Oprah Winfrey, can't go to the grocery store, like uber famous. And if you think about what, , children of a famous person do, they either actually go, like, right into the limelight, like right alongside them, but more often than not, they, like, shy away from all of it.

Like, they really... They, they want anonymity. They don't want the limelight. And so my grandmother was raised by her son, and, Frances was just Nanda, which is, was the grandmother name that she chose. So my grandmother was like, "Nanda wrote some books." Mm. Like, that was kind of... Although they lived off of the wealth of, uh, the 50 books, 1,000 short stories, 15 plays, all the things, , she didn't really understand that growing up.

... It was more just like, oh, this lady kind of wrote some books. It wasn't until, um, really my grandmother and my grandfather got divorced that boxes showed up on our doorstep. I was three years old. , And, , it was, like, memorabilia out of the attic that when my grandmother was leaving she was like, "Oh, Penny will like these."

And, my mom started to, like, understand the breadth and depth of who Frances was. She wasn't just somebody who wrote some books. I mean, you know, she was the highest paid author of her time. She, she made more money than the big boys. She, you know, broke through glass ceilings.

She, she's responsible for the copyright laws as they are today. , Lots of things. And so she kind of helped with all of those. And, um, and Frances wrote a ton of letters too. She traveled a lot. She traveled, like, 33 times over her lifetime, , by steamship. And so because of that, there were boxes and boxes and boxes of letters, , handwritten letters that, we had.

So kind of helped to tell her story, in a, in a whole nother way too. 

That's so special. Wow. 

It's crazy. 

It is crazy. How interesting. 

so you said you also loved The Little Princess. Um- Mm-hmm. So I have always said that Sara is my spirit animal. 

Mm. Sara Crewe. 

Yes. I always like... People are always like, "Who's your favorite character?"

I'm like, "It's Sara, just don't tell Mary." Like- ... Mary was so sour. And I- 

Exactly ... 

relate. I just, I'm more of a rosy sunshine girl. and so I love Sara from Sara Crewe. She's my favorite. 

That's funny, I'm more of a Mary. 

Interesting 

So, yeah 

Interesting 

Yeah. And now I feel like I'm the garden version of Mary, right?

Yeah. Oh, I am 100% the garden. I actually just gave a, a quick speech to a women's group, and, I always tell the part that, that I, when I was reading The Secret Garden in my 40s when I was just buried under life, um, that I got to the part where Mary finds the locked up, weed-filled, abandoned secret garden, and I was like, "Oh, wait, that's me."

Like, I didn't relate to Mary. I didn't relate to anybody, um, else except for that garden, and how that garden felt being all locked up, and my dreams, and all the things I hadn't watered and I had neglected, for sure. 

I have chills thinking about it, and then just the wonders it did for Colin in that story, and just how much is in our mind, and how much can be cured by nature and animals and just...

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

It's amazing. 

It is absolutely amazing. Okay, so I just realized that we just started this whole interview, and I l- I called you Lindsay, but that was all I said. Like, why don't you do a qui- Let's, let's stop down. 

Okay. Okay. If 

I, like, meet you in a coffee shop, right? Yes. Like, , hello, tell me, , your story.

Tell, tell me who you are

okay. My name is Lindsay van Wagner, and I am an author and a teacher and wellness coach kind of in this holistic space right now. And I've been through a long journey myself, and I believe that putting our - lives into stories can be medicine for other people.

So that's kind of what I've built my career upon now. I teach writing workshops, and help people go through personal breakthrough sessions, and find their authentic voice. And I write books, and I- anyone who wants to express themselves and isn't, or has that fear of being heard, seen, whatever that looks like to them, it doesn't have to be writing necessarily, just holding space for that.

Um, I also run a wellness studio in Rockville, Maryland. I'm here on the East Coast. And we do a lot of things, yoga, massage therapy, workshops. And again, it's all just a space for people to feel welcome and feel home, and a place they can be themselves. It's very inclusive and community-based. We also have a nonprofit.

So that's, yeah, that's the high-level view of where I'm at in my life right now.



 So that's where you are now, but what got you there? Like, , what were those chapters that- Yeah ... shaped you, um, along the journey? 

Yeah. Great question. So I got sober about 10 and a half years ago, and that kind of...

I thought it was the end of my life, really. It kind of felt like a death sentence, but it ended up being the beginning of this new chapter, and it really opened the door into all of the things that I'm doing now. I was very lost and sick in a sense, and for some reason I got a second chance, and I'm just trying to live that to the best of my ability.

20- my 20s were really, really rough and hard for me, as they tend to be for a lot of people. It just looks differently. And yeah, I, I went down a road of, um, alcohol and drugs, and that was, do the best with what I had at the time, and that was kind of my survival method. And now that I'm on the other side of it, and that's, part of just wanting to help people be heard and seen, and not shy away from their stories.

But learn from them, preserve the lessons, and then write the next chapter. And I, I truly believe that people can do that. With everything we know about neuro-linguistic programming and how we can change our internal representations of the world, anything we can do. I love how your, the Well-Tended Life, because I think of it as we're always tending our inner space.

Mm-hmm. So I, well, we, we tend to no pun intended, we tend to look to the external world- Yeah ... and see how we can improve things. But by tending to my inner space and helping other people to do that, you can shift your entire reality. And so that- that's what I've found to be true, and I just wanna use my story to help other people.

Wow. I mean, words are powerful, right? The words we speak over ourselves, and the words, we use to also tell those stories of the past, right? Um, the language we use dis- really helps us, like decides- Mm-hmm ... 

whether 

we get stuck there- 

Mm-hmm ... 

or we move through it and learn from it. Um, I actually, I, I was just watching, for some reason I am obsessed with Queer Eye right now.

Love that. 

It's like I, I've never watched it in my whole life- Yeah ... and I'm like obsessed with it. Something about the whole transformation piece that just really appeals to me. I just, I love seeing a good cr- transformation in people, you know, growing through things. And now, of course, I've just completely lost my train of thought as to why I said this God, what were we talking about?

We 

can learn from our stories. Uh- 

Yes. Yeah. Okay. He said... He was like, "I never regret..." He was talking about things of the past because, um, uh, well, he, he said... He, he was telling this guy, he was like, "You were just learning, right? And if you can stay in that frame of mind," and he was like, "Well, you know, I, I regret blah, blah, blah."

And he said, he's like, "I never regret anything that happened in the past because I wouldn't be who I am today," right? 

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

I was just, I was just learning, right? I can forgive myself because I was just learning, and I just... I remember, like, stopping and thinking like, "Wow, , that little tiny bit of semantics is empowering."

Yeah. How we frame it is everything. I heard a story recently of some twins that were on Oprah and came from the- identical twins, came from the same family. Um, they were interviewing. One of them was very successful, ran a non-profit, all of this good work in the community. One of them had kind of gone down the road of jail and addiction, and so she asked the one who had kind of had a rougher life, you know, "-," kind of like, "What made you like this?"

Or, "What was your experience?" And she said, "Haven't you heard my story? My parents weren't around," this and that, this and that. And then she asks the other one, "And have you come to accomplish all of these things and how are you so strong?" And she said, "Haven't you heard my story of all the things I had to go through?"

Right? Yeah. So it, like, brings us from that victim to victor mindset, and people don't understand you are the author. Like, you can be the author of your life. How cool is that? 

Yeah. And it's not you can be. 

You are. You 

are, right? And that's what people don't realize is that they are writing their story unconsciously, right?

Thousand, million percent you just said that so well. 

It's big. So how do you then, like, take someone and help them to start to transform that story and those tapes, right, that we've been playing over and over and over in our heads, um, and now believe their truth, which most of them aren't? 

Yes. Most of them are very distorted.

And I think of it, you know, people have funny associations around mantras or affirmations, and ... I kind of frame that as ... You already have mantras you're living by, so you might as well choose them and make them what you want them to be. Yeah, so every client's a little bit different.

Usually someone has a spark. It, it can literally be someone who has- half of a novel drafted to someone saying, "I haven't written in 30 years, and I wanna start somewhere." And so it's really rewarding, 'cause it's mostly, um, people... similar to your demographic. I was reading about, you know, your podcast.

So, you know, 30s to 70s-ish people usually going through some kind of transition in their life. 

Mm-hmm. 

Which is a great open, uh, entry point into this work, as you probably know. And so, yeah, I do. I coach people individually who sometimes it's just that accountability, wanting to be seen, wanting to read their work.

Sometimes it's I have an idea for a book. This Saturday I'm teaching a class, called So You Want to Write a Book, and just kind of going through the very 30,000-foot view of that process. And yeah, I, I truly think that no matter what it looks like, whether I'm teaching a group, speaking to a large group, sitting one-on-one with someone, it's, letting them be seen and heard and acknowledged, and the power of that, the power of having someone to listen to you in a group.

I love groups, 'cause groups support each other so beautifully. It's, it's priceless. 

Mm-hmm. 

I know it was for me. Because a lot of the reasons we're not writing and creating isn't because we don't know how. It's the creative courage that we need to cultivate, right? I kind of went through this period of once I take that next writing class, I'll know everything, and then I'll write.

You know? I had probably taken 25 classes and hadn't written one thing towards a specific project that would come into form. And then I totally changed everything, and it, it's the... Of course, those things are important. We need them. And , I think of it as building a ship.

We're just gonna have all of the details to build a ship and write, but not actually start, and the ship's not gonna go anywhere, right? Mm-hmm. So it's like we're collecting all these tools, and once I, once I get motivated or once I take that writer's retreat or once I do this, and we're doing everything except writing.

And that's painful. It's really painful for people, because that voice doesn't go away. 

Mm-mm. One of the most cathartic thing I ever did was write a book. And I, I haven't published it, but , it actually is the foundation for what I do and what I teach. I basically took the book eventually and then just broke it back down into courses and masterclass and, and teachings and all of that.

But it, it helped me to, like, put all the pieces together and to work through them, , it was very cathartic, but also the hardest thing I've ever done. Um, like you said, just, just hon- it's... you're right. The, the word is courage, right? Finding the courage to just, to just write it down. 

Yeah. Yeah. And it can feel like you're just walking around bare naked.

Um, and at the same time, if, if somebody, anybody listening feels like they have that call and that inner stirring, do something with it. Mm-hmm. And that can be anything. Do something with it. 

Yeah. And I wonder, like, when I first started writing I actually., I don't know that I've even told this story here probably on the podcast.

If I did, it was probably years ago. But, um, I actually went into college as an English major and a journalism minor. I, I wanted to write. , I always wrote as a kid, mostly, like, poetry and short stories. Um, I didn't know what kind of writer, but I knew, like, I had this thing in me. And I got a C in my very first English class in college, and I was like, "Well, I don't wanna do that all the way through college."

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

Like, clearly I'm not very good at this. Mind you, ... we were forced to get this thing called an email and then go to the, the library- ... to join this, this new thing called the internet, right? This spell check. We didn't have any of those things. I didn't have any of those things in the beginning of college.

Anyways, I quit writing that day- 

Mm-hmm ... 

and never wrote again for 20 years. 

Mm-hmm. And 

I never remember thinking that it was, like, this devastating thing. It was like, "Okay, well, I'll shift," and so I got a degree in public speaking instead 'cause I was like, "Oh, I can still write, but nobody has to judge my written word."

And I was like, "I can apply this to anything," and I had kids, and I went into sales. And, um, and then as I was kind of approaching 40, like, I felt like, like you said, this stirring. Um, and it came out of reading The Secret Garden, actually. It was I, I kept having these a-ha moments of these life lessons that were tucked inside those pages, that I knew I needed to write them down.

but I hadn't written for 20 years. And although I had this, like, knowing, like I was just gonna do it, but the idea of a book seemed so overwhelming that I was like, "Okay, I need, I need discipline. I need a reason to, to write," and so I started a blog. 

Mm-hmm. And 

I, like, said, "Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put out one blog a week."

And it didn't matter what it was. I just forced myself to write. That felt very- Um, attainable and doable versus the bigness of a book. Do you find that your clients... Like, , is there a middle ground between, like, writing a book and just- ... starting to get your right words on paper? 'Cause I think that's what's stops people is because the truth is writing a book is big.

It's a commitment. There's a lot of stuff in there. And e- and you may write it and nobody ever reads it. Mm-hmm. And that's true, but.. how do you guide somebody through 

that? Yeah. There's a lot of things in between writing in your journal and writing a book. Yeah. And so I encourage people, it really depends on their why, you know.

If you're, if you're creating for your heart and your art and maybe something to be shared with the family and that's all you care about, y- that, you can absolutely do that. I suggest people go to open mic nights if they are just wanting to share their work in a public sense, starting, starting a blog, maybe writing essays.

Um, just taking some morning pages- Mm ... is huge. Morning pages is usually my first for anybody who I work... Everyone I work with does morning pages. So- Will you 

explain to- Yes ... what a mor- 'cause I totally know what a morning page is. 

Yes, yes. 

Tell me. I figured. Tell 

me. Yeah, yeah. So there's this, um, amazing program called The Artist's Way that Julia Cameron created.

She's a very successful artist and creative. And it's about a higher path to creativity, and kind of fusing spirituality into it, whatever that looks like for you. But just acknowledging that there is this higher source that we're tapping into and channeling when we create, whether that's painting, art.

We are all natural born creators. So one of the tools she- suggests is called morning pages, and she says w- when you wake up, just write down, physically write three pages of anything to just clear your head and then move on. I personally have adapted that to page, it's called, when I recommend there's a lot of resistance toward morning and three pages and all these things, and I say just write one page of anything any time of day.

Start there, you know? Yeah. And so yeah, that's, that's what the morning pages are. 

Yeah. I, uh, I agree. I think people get really overwhelmed with the three pages. Within my journaling practice, we actually call the idea of a morning page, we call it composting. 

Hmm. I love 

that. But there are times m- the way I teach my journaling practice, it's very purposeful.

There's- there's steps, et cetera, so you know what to write and you know what to write about. But sometimes, like, you show up to the page and your- your mind is just muck, right? Like, you're still thinking about what you woke up at 3:00 this morning thinking about. You're thinking about your day ahead, whatever it happens to be, and sometimes you just need to, like, dump it on a page.

And so I'm like, okay, when you get there, like, just you can totally do that. Just write down whatever is on your brain, if it's your to-do list, whatever it is. 

Yeah. 

But I always believe that everything we write has some sort of purpose in it. Um, and it may be that you started out writing how mad you are at the world or whatever it is, but in there, there is a little nugget.

So I say go back and read over it, and circle any little nugget- 

Mm-hmm ... 

that you can use to grow forward, and then take a pen and mark out all of the rest. Like, actually compost it. Like, and let it go. 

That's a great practice, Carrie. 

Super fun. Um, and I- I don't do it often, but there... Like, I do it when I need to do it.

I've heard so many people who, , love The Artist's Way, um, morning pages, and I think it's a great practice. 

Am I allowed to ask what kind of brought you to this journey? 

Yeah. 

Since we're having a conversation. Okay. 

Absolutely. You can ask me anything you want. This is a chat back and forth.

Okay, perfect. 

Um, so what's your question exactly? 

My question is, you read The Secret Garden in your 40s. . Is there a reason that it spoke to you then, and were you in some kind of- 

Yes. Yes and yes. so, basically, I was in corporate life. , A- and ... I worked for Crayola.

Um, I was actually named salesperson of the year, um, in November. We opened our restaurant. My husband and I own a restaurant, and we opened it, um, a month before this award. And then in January, I lost my job as a part of our big reorganization. 

Mm. 

And h- I'll be honest, I, for the l- like the year prior though, I had been hearing this, this message in my journaling of just, like, "Let go.

It's time to move on," and I didn't listen. I was like, "Oh, you don't do that in a bad economy. Well..." I made up all these excuses. Like, "Well, I don't know what I'm supposed to do." Um, and it wasn't until, like, that was kind of taken off my plate, .. well, I'd love to tell you that that's all of a sudden when I had this, like, aha moment, but from there, instead of dealing with the grief of losing my job that I had tapped way too much of my ego to, um, I basically inadvertently buried myself in the weeds of busyness.

I said yes to everything. Like, I went into, like, over-prove-it mode, and I didn't know that that was what I was doing at the time. It's taken me years to unpack that. Um, but I, I basically said yes, and for two years I just poured into everyone and everything else, and ignored me. And, um, at, at some point my husband was like, "You can't keep doing this.

Like, ... Not only are you withering, we are withering as a family around you. Like, something has to change." Mm. And that's when I happened to be reading The Secret Garden. Um, and, um, the words that hit me the most were when Mary ran inside to, um, tell Colin all about the garden, and Colin stopped her and said, "Wait, is it dead?"

And she said, "It soon will be if no one cares for it." 

Oh, wow. 

Yeah. And I literally... I remember just being, like, taken back, and it was in that moment that I understood how bad it could be., That, yes, I was in burnout, but, like, if I kept going, that, that really, you know, things around me or I were, you know...

Like, death was imminent, right? Um- Yeah ... and that I had to learn a new way. , But I still didn't know, right? Um, but then the pages, you know, Mary showed me how, um... I watched her consistently show up every single day, rain or shine, for that garden. You know, open the door, clear the path, make room for growth, you know, pull the weeds, you know, enlist her friends.

Like, all of these things. Mm. Um, and I me- I remember reading it, and I remember, like, being in the shower, like, just, like, thinking and ruminating and going, "Oh, my gosh. Weeds will... What are, what are weeds," right? Mm. And starting to, like, work through what were the weeds in my life. Like, what were the things that were constantly popping up between me and this thing that I say I wanna grow, this person I say I wanna be.

Um, you know, and, and starting to think through those things, and I, I started, you know, doing my own work of, like, pruning. I mean, one of the first things I did when I realized, like, how buried I was- 'Cause I knew I needed to make room. Um, and one of the first things I did is I sat down and I, um, I grabbed my phone and I asked myself, um, I opened up my notes page, and I was like, "Okay, what would I rather be doing if I wasn't so busy?"

Mm-hmm. 

Doing all these things that I've committed to. And in a, in like a cool five minutes, , I had, , 20 things on this list, and they weren't even like I would write a book or a... Like, they were literally like, I would have dinner with my family, I would spend more time with my parents, I would, I would recycle, I would be...

Like, all these things that... You know, I would make cheese someday or, like, whatever. , They were really small things, but what I realized really quickly, I was like, "Wow, if it only took me five minutes to list 20 things, what am I wasting my time doing all these other things that really aren't bringing me joy- Mm-hmm

um, and, and are draining me? They're not giving me life." Um, and so I kind of used that list and, like, I started, saying no. I started going back to those things I had committed to and going, you know, "Hey, this no longer fits who I wanna be, and I can no longer commit to this," and, um, you know, I got really, really serious with those pruning shears.

Um, and that really was when my heart kinda went like, "This is... The work that I'm doing for myself, it's important," and it, it needed to be shared. Um, and- it was when the remembrance of me happened. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of, of like, oh, I forgot I used to love to write.

Yeah, I did. Okay. You know? And then it was like, oh, I could write about this. I could... I need, oh, I need to write it down for me anyways, and write... And I just kinda started writing things here and there, and, um, and then I realized, I did, like, 100 day practice with a friend, um, who kinda helped me get started writing again.

She was like, "It doesn't matter. Like, whatever you think of, just write about it." Like, and I think one of the first things I wrote about was bubbles. Hmm. And it was so- Yeah, why 

not? 

Yeah, it was literally- ... just, yeah. But , even in that way, , you know, it was such a sweet time of the world, m- me walking into this unknown.

Mm-hmm. Yet I knew I was supposed to walk there. Does that make sense? Like, it was... But I, I had no fear I just was walking really loosely, um, with my hands kinda open wide of like... I even called it in the beginning, I, I never said I was gonna write a book. I was like, "I have this project I'm working on."

Because I- Mm-hmm ... also wanted it to become whatever it needed to be, not what I wanted to call it. But even in that there were so many sweet moments of, I was actually on the airplane when I was writing, um, uh, about bubbles, and we were actually, we were going to... My mom was speaking, um, at this thing about Frances in Tennessee, and we arrived and went straight to lunch.

And, uh, we went in and we had our hamburgers, and we came out, and right outside where we were, it had actually been raining when we walked in and it wasn't when we walked out, was this giant bubble machine. Like, and it was l- so it was like these sweet little moments of like, yes. Yes. Bubbles. Yeah. And I literally, I walked out and I looked at my mom, and I was like, "You're not gonna believe what I just read about on the airplane."

Like, I wrote for, like, 30 minutes about bubbles. And, you know, champagne bubbles, it was, like, even fart bubbles. Like, it was like- ... this really silly thing, but all these little confirmations. 

Mm-hmm. 

I was... That's what doing the work does, is for me, is it opened me up to see that space around me. 

Mm-hmm. Um, 

and it's why I continue to do not just this work, but my work.

Mm-hmm. 

Why I tend to me, so that, 'cause I wanna stay in that, that awareness, that ability to notice, um, when there are those synchronicities, where there are those little glimmers and signs and, you know, um, pebbles, right? Like, little stones. , Anyways, so I don't know, did I answer your question? 

You did.

You did. But, but- And we have so much in common, and when you said the word notice, that's the first kind of phase of my book is called notice, right? Mm-hmm. And just observing what's around you. And it can make... The bubbles thing is just such a good analogy, because it can make life so much more magical if we're present to each moment.

And I did not know what that meant, nor was interested in that during my lost years, as I call them. Um, and when you said death was imminent, that was true for me too. And it was this, like, jumping off point, and either direction was terrifying, because it's the unknown. And then taking a leap of faith- or continuing what I was doing both seemed impossible.

Like, I couldn't live like that anymore. 



          And now it's time for my favorite part of the Inner Beaver, because it's inspired by my life-tending journal practice. But let me be clear, this is not your grandma's journal. It's more of a growth chart, reflection diary, planting reminder, observation deck, and research notebook all rolled into one. And when used daily, this journal practice is a life-gardening game-changer, guaranteed to produce big, beautiful, purpose-filled blooms in any season.

Now, it's by far the most important tool in my own personal life-gardening shed, and I want to gift you a free journaling template today. So check out the link in the show notes or head over to thewelltendedlife.com and download it and get started today. 

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,  Yeah, I, I wasn't in the corporate world, but I was in the federal government for seven years, and that's kind of when the drinking and drugs, should not be saying this, ramped up. And, um, it was a great job. It was all of the things. I had all the things, and I begged and prayed for it to be enough, it's enough for everyone else.

Why can't it just be enough for me? I'm so privileged, and I have this amazing job that I just keep rising and rising and rising, and why c- ugh, just want it to be enough. I just want to be a normal person, you know? And something inside, just that voice, no matter how much I tried to quiet it through all of these external things, did not go away, and now I try to listen to that voice.

It's, that's the switch. That's, now I try to kind of quell everything else in my life so that that voice can be the main one that I'm listening to and taking direction and noticing those signs and synchronicities and confirmations of yes, you're on the right path. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. 

Like- Um, how do you do that?

Like, , what are your practices for you personally that help you to still be in that? 

Yeah. So writing, obviously, is kind of my frontline of defense every day. , I've recently been chanting with the mala beads, and that kind of grounds me in something tangible. Meditating, yoga, always staying a beginner.

You know, I just started training this past weekend, and I try to do as much self-growth and development as I can, and that helps me to stay in that openness mindset and just contribute and add more tools to my toolbox. Being in nature as much as possible, saying no, like you said, to the things that aren't serving me, and trusting.

The unknown hasn't ever let me down up to this point. Mm. So once you start living that way and developing the self-efficacy, , oh, okay, I can listen to spirit, whatever you call that, and, infuse that into every area of my life rather than, like, this is my work. This is my spirituality practice.

This is my writing. There needs to be an integration of all of it. And every moment, no matter what you are doing, you do have the choice to lead with love and to choose love in that moment. No matter how tangible the decision might mean, how business-oriented, how logical, where does love play a part in this when blah blah blah.

You can always lead with love because, , if it's not love, it's fear. And moment to moment choosing love. 

Mm-hmm. 

Yeah. 

I love that. I love the word integration too. , ' Cause I think you're right. I think,, we box out different- Mm-hmm ... parts of our day, of our life, , and, , ...

We aren't good, , at bringing that spiritual sense and knowing into all parts of- Mm-hmm. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Okay. I don't know what I wanna ask you next. Um, da, da, da, da, da. 

How do you do that?  How do you stay in that place of spirit now that you've discovered- 

Yeah.

For me, it's the daily journal practice, , that I do every day. I read, reflect, weed, seed, and water. Love that. Yeah. Write that 

down. 

Very intentional. , And, , I read to connect, and to be inspired by my spirit. So for me that's devotionals, but sometimes it's me just, like, coming and sitting and being quiet and still and asking questions and listening to my heart, et cetera.

It can look like a bunch of different things. And then,- the reflect step is really about noticing. Um, it's about looking back on the day before to spot the joy, goodness, and growth that was there. Because I believe that joy, goodness, and growth is in every single day. We're just rushing too fast in our lives to stop down and notice it.

And- 

Mm-hmm ... 

you create a practices, practice of noticing the joy, goodness, and growth- Then, um, you see it everywhere, right? , Your eyes are open to it, , and it keeps my eyes open to it. Mm-hmm ... and sometimes the joy is as simple as, you know, a little kid giggling behind me in line at Starbucks, right?

, Goodness is usually one step , deeper. It's, like, more like what you'd write in a gratitude. , You know, , the goodness for which I'm grateful for. and, you know, I always say, like, coffee is joy. Like, coffee with- ... cream and vanilla is goodness, right? Um, and then the last thing I always do is I am always on the lookout to spot the growth in my life.

- 

Mm-hmm ... 

because, , growth happens in tiny little shoots. 

Mm-hmm. 

And, if we're not looking for them, ,  , we're missing signs of how well we're watering or how not well we're watering, right? Um, so if I'm looking for growth in my life of the things that I say I wanna grow, do, be, me- mend, tend, all of those things, um, and I'm not spotting it, right, that's information that I can use and be like, "Oh, okay, well, if that thing's not growing, like, what am I doing?

Am I not giving it enough time, and I'm not giving it enough attention? Am I, am I wasting time over here?" Like, what is- Mm-hmm ... would that help me know? My friend's dad, always says, "You can't expect what you don't inspect." 

Um- Ooh, that's a good one. 

Yeah. And so it's my way of, like, every day, like, inspecting- Yeah

the things that I say matter most to me, that I'm tending to, to say, like, you know, "How am I doing? Am I doing that well, or am I not?" , And using that information to, , grow forward. , So yeah. So for me, you know, , my journal practice , is my playbook. Um- 

Mm-hmm ... 

but also, you know, taking time to be still and , to notice where I am in this season of life is an, for me, the other big practice.

, Because seasons shift on a dime, and many times, like, I'm still, like, trying to do things as if life was the same as it was three weeks ago, but life is not the same this three weeks as it was three weeks ago. Sometimes you go, like, long periods and it's kind of similar, but, but it changes often. And stopping down to notice what has changed and then being able to say, "Okay, given what I know about the season I'm in..."

So for example- , I kind of came into this year with, , kind of a season of, like, let's go. Like, I felt really released from some obligations with , my mom.  I live at ground zero for the floods in Texas. My mom and, uh, eight others survived the floods, and we've spent the last really six months rebuilding her life and her home.

Not her home, but we moved her to another home, and all the things. So I felt really, like, coming into this year, I was like, "Okay, I feel released from that," and, like, very much, like, the word was given to me of, like, let's go. Like- 

Mm-hmm ... 

, me and my spirituality, me and my Holy Spirit, me all the things, like, let's go together.

Like, we're going forward. Like, I felt really released., And I was in that mode, and then two weeks ago, my mother-in-law passed, right? And so very quickly, I had to stop down and go, "Okay, wait. We're in a grief season again." And trauma again, because that grief stirred up other, other o- you know, old stuff.

And so being aware enough in my life to be able to have those internal conversations of like, "Okay, this is where I am. , I'm gonna have some more grace with myself. I'm gonna have grace with the people around me. You know, I'm gonna allow the tears to come when they come. , And I'm gonna say, you know, no to big things on my plate because I wanna leave room and space for me to handle this now and not wait four years to do it."

Mm. 

Right? 

Yeah. Yeah, that's such great self-awareness. 

 I think there's something to that making room and leaving room. 

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

I feel like your, uh, it seems to me your life , is very simple, right? Um, but that's by purpose, right? Design? 

Yes. 

Yeah. 

Very much so. 

, How do you maintain that, right?

Um, because I feel like the world still comes at us. 

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's a great question. You know, every day is kind of a new experiment, and just taking stock on what's working, what's not, being very honest with myself, uh, about my energy. Some days I can do a lot more than other days. some days are good for seeing clients.

Some parts of the day are better for creating than others. And just really- Respecting that and having that become the practice rather than cause I, I've definitely been through seasons where I've buried myself with busyness, as you said. I love all of your metaphors, by the way. Thank you.

It's just so great how you can weave those all in. It's, such a great image. Um, yeah, so where the goal was just to do a lot, but I didn't even really know what I was doing. It was just to be doing. Um, and I can see that now. And like you said, it's not a conscious - process, but now just being very intentional in the way I build my days and build my life.

I think that how you do one thing is how you do everything. And so fully showing up and, and making everything its own ceremony almost. Mm-hmm. And honoring that space. Yeah, I wish there was some big thing that I do. I just always come back to my why and my values and, like you said, kind of measuring around that, is this serving me?

Is this serving where I am in my life? Saying no to those bigger things and , trusting yourself and trusting the universe. 

Yeah. I love the word you used, which was experiment. 

Uh-huh. 

.. I think if we can walk into every single day and be like, "This is just one big experiment," right?

Like- 

Yep ... 

try this. If it works, great. If it doesn't, move on. 

Absolutely. 

Use the information, , rather than, you know, just doing the same thing every single day. 

Mm-hmm. 

We get stuck. 

Yeah, it's all data. It's all data collection. Yeah. And I talk about that in my book too, is like, the best scientists  Are neutral in their observation. So kinda start off in this notice phase of what is going well, what isn't. Not changing even anything, just like- Mm ... oh, that's interesting, , you're witnessing your life. I think we need to do that before we realize what needs modification. 

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I mean, even for example, like with weeds, like I do this a part of my... Every single day I'm like, "What weed popped up?" Mm-hmm. Not as a shame game. Mm-hmm. Like, oh, my gosh, this weed is still here. But because that weed is information for me. Mm-hmm. That weed tells me, like if my weeds of busyness are starting to go crazy, uh, that weed makes me go, "What am I covering up?"

Yep. 

Like, what am I not dealing with that I should be dealing with, and instead I'm just going into over, you know, overdo it mode again. , And so yeah, taking all the, the shame out of the game, um- 

Yes ... 

is, is so important. And just, you know, like you said, looking at it as data. 

Yeah. 

What do I 

do? Take away the stories and the narrative and the drama and the self sabotage, and just where are we?

And then you change the variables. It's X and Y. You know. what can I shift today? 'Cause that didn't really work out so well yesterday. Um, let's try this. Mm. So yeah, it's, it's a fun way to look at it. 

I love that. I love that. , Okay, so you've mentioned your book a couple times. Is this- Yeah

some process, or , you've already published something? Tell me about 

it. Yeah, it's published, and it's actually called Spirit Vigilante. 

Okay. 

And so it came out November 2024. Mm-hmm. And I'm really proud of it.- I have a book of poems published. This is my first kind of debut into telling my story explicitly, and I love it.

... I share my vignettes and different experiences I've had through the lens of a journey the reader can take with me and apply it to their own life. So there's little sections called Spirit Steps, and you can actually, you know, here's what I did, here's where I went wrong, here's what I did to help.

Why don't you try this in whatever area of your life you're in, whatever that thing is. So it's very accessible to everybody. Like, anybody could pick it up , and understand the language. It's not super woo-woo, and it's not super clinical. It's a really nice blend, because I know some people wanna see the how will this help me.

Like, and there's so much research out there for a lot of the practices. And then yeah, so I kind of try to merge those for the reader. When I say it's accessible to everyone, I would say the, the main audience, those, are those people that we're talking about that might be going through some kind of transition, or even you've been in this space for a while and you want kind of a reset to, to step back and look at things.

So yeah, there's eight phases, and some cool stories and some cool practices. So- Yeah, , the subtitle is Telling My Truth to Help You Live Yours. So Spirit Vigilante: Telling My Truth to Help You Live Yours. So kind of sharing my story , and giving actionable techniques. 

I love that.

Can you share a technique that you, uh, talk about in your book? 

Sure. Since we're talking about this experiment thing, in the first chapter of Notice, I say to think about some behavior that you think might not be serving you. Anything, anything. And to take inventory throughout your day of when this comes up, what time of day, who are you with?

What are the conditions around it? You know, if we were talking about cigarettes or something, I tend to smoke after work. What's the feeling around it? What other behaviors? , And just truly stepping back and observing, oh, that's interesting. That happens when I'm with this, or after a conversation with this person.

And just kind of seeing, is that even something you're interested in changing? Okay, then let's take the next step, right? So that's one exercise where there's literally, like, charts in the book where you can show different times of day that you're engaging in something that might not be helpful for you, which - you might be ready to shed.

And then the next chapter is Allow, and that's allowing a greater source in to support you and help you once you have decided you wanna make a change. And then it builds on that all the way to the eighth phase, which is Ascend, and that's that part of the hero's journey where you're taking the magic elixir and sharing it with other people and ascending to this greater state where you're like, "Oh, this is about so much more than me."

Yeah. "Let me apply this to the big picture." - 

People say this often about m- m- my journaling practice, that it helps them with , their AA book and, like, kind of the, the daily assessment piece. The book, as you're describing it, I hear, I feel some of those, really amazing steps that really I feel like everybody should go through.

Absolutely. I feel like, feel glimmers of that in what you're talking about. , Was that intentional?  

was it intentional? So I mention recovery in my book, and that I am definitely part of the 12-step, meeting community. Yeah, I mean, I think it's just a part of my language now. I don't think, I think the 12 steps have made some things common- That have always been there- Right

and just said them in different ways. But yeah, there's people who have read my book , who have said, you know, "Oh, I could, I could tell." Just like when you're out there having conversations with people- Right ... and there's a mantra or something, and you're like, "Oh, you're a friend of Bill's, aren't you?" Um.

Well, I 

think what I love though about how you were talking about it though, is that I think it opens the door to people who don't identify with that community. B- but anybody who's ever been through any of that practice and, , through NA or Al-Anon or any of those, um, you know, you look at it and you're like, "Oh, everybody should go through these things."

, And so I like that there was like some hints in there because, I think everybody should go through some of them. 

Yes. I agree. I agree. Absolutely, and it makes sense that people say that your work helps them amplify that process further based on everything you've said. So yeah, it's all like, a- again, integration.

Yes. Yes. , So , where are you in your life season, like, , where would you say you are? I'm always curious. 

Hmm. Can you give me some words of like parts of the cycle- So like- ... you've experienced? 

Yeah. So I mean, you know, a busy life season, a mid-life, a, um, you know, right now I'm in a season of grief, um, but also of growth, right?

So I'm kind of, you know, are you in a season of waiting? Are you in, 

in- Mm-hmm ... 

creating? Like, what are some words that would describe kind of how you're feeling in this season of life? 

The word that comes to me is surveying. Mm. Almost like you're surveying a landscape or a garden, to keep with your beautiful metaphors.

Of just kind of stepping back, not stopping any of the projects I'm doing, but seeing , what's really lighting me up, what, where I might be able to take a step back so that I can take a more powerful step forward in another area. , The things that I'm doing just because I've been doing them for so long and seeing if there's still value in those.

So I'd say, yeah, I'd say surveying, , not waiting or stopping anything, just- Yeah ... stepping back and doing like a bird's-eye view- Hmm ... of 

the 

land. And like that scientist mind, but , on a larger scale than the day-to-day. Just the, "Hmm, okay. Let's look at this year to year and see what direction we're going."

Yeah, I'd say surveying. 

I love that. 

Observation. Yeah. 

I love that.



   I ask all my guests this, to look back and notice in their life, , the joy, goodness and growth that has been around you. , It could be in this last week. It could be in the last month, or even yesterday. , And it really, it comes from a quote in The Secret Garden that said, , "Mary hadn't noticed it before, but she looked up and saw it."

- 

Mm ... 

that idea , of noticing it. So, where are you noticing joy in your life right now? 

What a great question. I'm so, so blessed, and have so much joy in my life. Right now, where am I experiencing joy? Hmm. 

Well, where have you seen it? 

Where have I seen it? Yeah. Where have I seen it? It 

can be as simple as the snow or, um- 

Yeah

your weather looks like up there, but 

Yeah, there's a lot of snow on the ground. okay, where do I see joy? , I was at a training the past few days as an assistant for something I've already been certified in, and my sister came as a student, and it was... I, wanted her to experience it, so I treated her to everything, the hotel, , the whole workshop, all of that, and it was really cool to experience her learning something for the first time and, like, seeing through her eyes, and that I was in a position to help her and say, "You know, this is something that really helped me.

Maybe you, maybe you would like it, too," from a very, very objective, letting her have her own experience. 

Mm-hmm. 

And that's just such a blessing because that shows that all of this is about showing other people , what's improved my life- Mm-hmm ... and how, how they can, too, and it was just a great experience for both of us.

I love that. Yeah. 'Cause I, I 100% believe that we go through what we go through to help others grow through 

it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

Um, you know, and whatever we can, you know, leave little breadcrumbs behind. , I feel like for me, that's my reason for being, right? 

Yep. 

Is, is t- here to help others.

 okay. So goodness is a little bit, deeper than joy. What, goodness are you feeling grateful for these days? 

Goodness. I'm real- that sounded like I was saying, "Oh, goodness." 

Mm-hmm. I love it. 

, My clients and students. I'm just so blessed that the right people have found me and speak the language that they relate to, and I'm grateful for each and every one of them, and that's why c- I always say when I teach a class, like- You all showing up here is why I can do what I do.

So just- Yeah ... thank you for existing and being here. And we're all learning from each other. I'm, I'm facilitating this conversation. 

Well, and I also believe that they found you because you did your work. 

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 

So I want you to hear that, that they couldn't find you unless you did your work first, and then, , and that you continue to do your work.

, They didn't just stumble in. You were able to invite them in because of your, the work, the hard work that you've done, . So that's- 

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for, for saying that. 

Well, and that may be the answer to the next question, which is, the last one is growth. Where, where are you noticing growth in your life?

Where are you seeing it? 

Boy, boy, boy, boy. growth. I'm just so glad you're mentioning it, because we can, we can look back and think of all the things that we've yet to do and not notice where we've been. And so I'd just say the growth of my spiritual life, which then affects all areas of my life. And so, you know, 10 years ago me, this is the life they were dreaming of but didn't even know that dream existed.

And like I couldn't have built it more beautifully than how it exists today. , It's a byproduct of trusting, of letting things happen, of going with the flow, all while doing the necessary footwork to maintain that. So yeah, I'd say growth spiritually, , and like we said, applying it to all areas of my life rather than it being in this silo while everything else goes on chaotically without that part.

So big. So big. Oh my gosh. 

Huge. 

, All right, well, do you have any other questions for me? Do you feel like... Is there anything else we should share, or do you- 

I have so many questions, and- I think this conversation feels complete right now. Okay. And I know there will definitely be a to be continued, and that there's something about our connection that wants to emerge.

Yeah. So I'm looking forward to that. 

Ooh. I love it. My gosh, Lindsay, thank you so much for like saying yes to this crazy idea of recording this conversation. , Tell people how they can like find you, follow you, all the things, hire you, all the things. 

Sure. The best place and most direct is Instagram. My at is @spiritvigilante.

So my full name's Lindsay Van Wagoner. If you Google either of those terms, you will find me. 

Oh my gosh. , Everybody, thank you for coming along on this, , Front Porch, Conversation. , Thank you for listening, and I sincerely hope that this podcast has inspired you to today to, , integrate, , all the things that you're doing, , including your spirituality, but also experiment.

, Walk into each day and, , not be afraid to try something new, and then use that data in order to live out your best well-tended life. So until next time, y'all, blessings and blooms. Thank you, Lindsay. 

Thank you so much. Have a great day. 

 Oh my goodness, y'all, that was so good. Don't forget to check the show notes for my favorite Heart Tap moments from this episode. What is a heart tap? Well, whenever I read, listen to a podcast or watch a speaker, I'm always on the lookout for those like headbug heart tap and aha moments. You know what I'm talking about.

These are the things that cause your head to Bob, an agreement, the heart, to make that tap. When un much needed word of wisdom comes along or your soul to scream. Aha. That was the word I was looking for. So for each episode, I like to share a few of my heart taps in the show notes with you, but I'm curious, we want.

Are your heart tap moments from today's episode. Run on over and direct. Message me your favorite moments, questions, heart taps, and more over at Instagram or Facebook today. And if you are inspired by this episode or maybe learn something new, make sure to share this show with a friend or post about it in your stories.

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Tending to thank you again for listening and being a part of this well-attended life community. And until next time, y'all blessings and.